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Rob Ford most divisive mayoral candidate: poll | Posted Toronto | National Post

In Canada on August 25, 2010 at 20:30

Rob Ford most divisive mayoral candidate: poll

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Tim Fraser for National Post

While Mr. Ford is ahead of Mr. Smitherman in the overall race by 11 points, his lead is significantly higher in the suburbs

  August 25, 2010 – 6:14 am

Rob Ford appears to be the most divisive mayoral candidate, but also the one most Torontonians believe would make the best mayor, according to a new poll.

The Ipsos Reid survey conducted for the National Post, Global Television and Newstalk 1010 over the weekend shows 27% of Torontonians think Mr. Ford, if elected, would do the best job of governing the city. George Smitherman came in second at 19%.

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Mr. Ford also edged out Mr. Smitherman as the most divisive candidate on the ballot; 24% of Torontonians say they would never vote for Mr. Ford, compared with 22% who say the same about Mr. Smitherman.

Mr. Ford has been riding a wave of taxpayer anger in the suburbs, where voters are eager for a candidate who will clamp down on city hall spending, Ipsos pollster John Wright noted. While Mr. Ford is ahead of Mr. Smitherman in the overall race by 11 points, his lead is significantly higher in the suburbs — in Etobicoke, for instance, Mr. Ford has a 35-point lead. And while about a third of downtown Torontonians say they would never vote for Mr. Ford, suburban voters appear more likely to rule out Mr. Smitherman.

“This is the suburbs candidate versus the city candidate, and suburbs are winning,” Mr. Wright said. “[T]here is great antipathy in the downtown core toward Rob Ford getting in, but on the other hand there are a whole lot of people who would say, well, if he’s going to get in, it sounds like he’s going to shake things up.”

On the question of who would make the best mayor, Sarah Thomson, Joe Pantalone and Rocco Rossi lagged, polling at 8%, 8% and 7%. Nearly a third of respondents did not know who would do the best job, or thought none of the five candidates stood out.

On the issue of divisiveness, 11% of respondents say they would never vote for Mr. Pantalone, 9% would not vote for Ms. Thomson and 7% would spurn Mr. Rossi. The remainder of those surveyed either did not know, or would rule out none of the candidates.

The telephone survey of 400 people has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
Asked about the latest numbers yesterday, Mr. Ford said: “It is certainly encouraging, the increased support I continue to receive every day. As long as the tax-and-spenders down at City Hall continue to waste taxpayers’ money, I will keep opposing them.”

Ryerson University municipal politics expert Myer Siemiatycki says the poll underscores two vastly different perceptions of Mr. Ford among voters: supporters view him as a saviour for an ailing city, while detractors see him as a heavy-handed bully who would bring the operations of council to a standstill.

“Those who like him, like him a lot,” Mr. Siemiatycki said. “He clearly has tapped into an anger, a resentment, a bitterness that is out there about the state of affairs in the city — whether it is warranted or not, whether it’s an accurate diagnosis or not — let alone whether his prescription is the appropriate prescription.”

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G Markham

5:58 AM on August 25, 2010

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Wow, spin-o-ramma !

If the margin for error is 4.9% and the title for most divisive is held by a margin of 2%, you can say that the front-runners are equally divisive. You could even say that its possible that Smitherman is the most divisive.

Nothing to see here folks, move along now.

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Politically Accurate

6:05 AM on August 25, 2010

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Better Rob Ford than the socialist aberration that is/was David Miller. Perhaps Ford’s eventual election will begin to undo Toronto’s well-earned reputation as leftard central.

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Save Canada Now

6:07 AM on August 25, 2010

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Baloney.

Ford is not “divisive”, politics itself is inherently divisive. This is an election with ONE winner. It is not a “coom-byah, hand-holding, praying to the spirits for guidance, coming-together to pick a new wise one” exercise.

Sheesh. And, in other news, researchers declare that water is wet.

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6:16 AM on August 25, 2010

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It’s voter anger everywhere of people feeling they are being ripped off. And when the Smitherman camp and Pantalone camp crowd start calling Ford names, or trying to smear him–or even calling his supporters idiots, the better it gets for Ford. These people are insulting the same voters who are angry about tax ripoffs while government services decline drastically or billion dollar boondoggles such as eHealth and OLG, or even $88 million dollar glass hockey arenas and $200 million dollar TTC’s new HQ proposals——-
It’s also anger against McGuinty(whom 64% of Ontarians want GONE come the next election). .My neighbour is NDP provincially but as a hard-working taxpayer, even he’s tired of the antics at city hall.

Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/08/24/mayor-miller-would-likely-win-if-he-ran-again-poll-shows/#ixzz0xcDZHp8B

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7:03 AM on August 25, 2010

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This is just getting stupid. We have the NP doing two MEANINGLESS polls a day about this race. Almost all of which, try to cloud Ford’s chances of winning.
This site is turning into another CBC. Sheesh.

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7:56 AM on August 25, 2010

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I don’t think that Rob Ford is divisive. If anything, he’s the opposite. He’s uniting all the hard-working private sector folk who are tired of politicians and their enablers living the high life all the while flushing our money down the drain.

Unfortunately, Rob Ford also seems to be unifying the media against him. Smitherman must have something on the owners of Torstar, BCE, CanWest and Sun Media, because they are vehemently attacking (and libelling) Ford on an hourly basis. However, the truly frustrating thing is that they all remain deathly silent on Smitherman’s endless list of failures, gaffes and general screwups.

The media needs to report the news, not bend it, fabricate it or otherwise influence it.

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8:39 AM on August 25, 2010

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If Rob Ford becomes the next mayor will he get enough support from city council to actually make the changes he is talking about? If you are voting for Ford as Mayor will you also be voting for a Councillor that will work with him to reduce wasteful spending?

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clarke peter

8:58 AM on August 25, 2010

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There is only one poll that counts and that is the counting of ballots cast at all polling stations throughout the city on October 25, 2010.

With NO experience in business journalist continue to attack the positions of others offering up solutions for Toronto’s fiscal crisis caused by out of control Spending by incumbent councillors and the unsustainable left leaning ideologies of the outgoing mayor.

Over the past ten years Toronto spending over inflation for the same period increased by 261%, with the largest cost being for wages, salaries and benefits.

Debt servicing costs for transit alone has doubled on the average by 20% annually; with other debt costs increasing on average at 14.6% annually, yet inflation for the past ten years averaged only 2.3% annually.

Our city’s problems will get worse unless we have new candidates that understand and acknowledge that to address our fiscal crisis we will have to decrease SPENDING by finding efficiencies, increasing user fees, cuts or elimination of certain programs.

Suggesting otherwise is an attempt to hoodwink the taxpayers of Toronto.

http://torontopolitics2010.blogspot.com/

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9:19 AM on August 25, 2010

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This is all rather sad… Suburbanites versus City dwellers. Mike Harris has left us quite a legacy. If there’s such a divergence in views between 905 and 416, perhaps it’s time for regional government again. Let’s face it, amalgamation never worked, and never will. The last thing I ever want to see is another Mel Lastman Bumbling his way up Queen street. At the same time, I’m sure old Furious George would be an unwelcome sight at the neighborhood bar-B-Q off Royal York.

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LOL the ole Liberal strawman, when they lose the debate they screech “Divisive they are divisive” poor progressives and their loopy upside down logic. Anyone who doesn’t agree with the loopy left is deemed Divsive, and lo and behold they pull out the liberal Academics to prop up their propaganda.

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10:24 AM on August 25, 2010

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I do not believe a single tally in any angus reid poll anymore. where are these polls taken? Who do they poll? I’ve never been polled, no one i know has ever been polled. These polls are obviously done in the suburbs, or with dumb ford supporters, and therefore VERY skewed and not the least bit trustworthy.

@G Markham – you can’t see what’s right in front of your face? Clearly Ford is the most divisive, the suburbs (not being smart enough to ace up their boots) support Ford like followers support their cult leader (blindly with no regard for his f’d up policy scheme or his total lack of credibility) while the people of Toronto, being smart enough and educated enough to make informed decisions know better than to support a buffoon.

@politically accurate – you shoudl read something about socialism before you open your mouth about it, you clearly hae no clue what you’re talking about.

@ save Canada now – you’re obviously tryign to push this tough told guy onlien persona, we get it, except that i’m sure you’re just a wimpy douchebag from the suburbs. You’d make a terrible politician, you can’t see what’s obviously going on, ford is divisive, maybe you don’t understand the statement because you don’t knwo what divisive means. It’s liek when someone gives a compliment to Joey Tribiani that he doesn’t udnerstand and he takes it as an insult. Look up the word divisive, it’s not an insult, it’s an astute observation. Maybe you should look up astute as well.

For the rest of you – Ford has never been called a name, i never once heard any candidate call him a name. They do however point out the things he’s done, or not done that make him look like a fool, but he DID those things, and the lied about it. I guess people from the b’urbs liek being lied to, I guess you all liek to lie to yourself. You all want ford to be soemthign he isn’t, as this article even states, he’s not you, he won’t represent you well, he doesn’t care abotu what you care about, he’sfeeding you lines to get your vote because he’s a liar. Every day there’s a new story zbout how Ford is lyign to you, how his policy won’t work, how he’s so divisive in municipal politics that he no one has any respect for him on council anymore and will not work with him on his “initiatives”.

I hope rob ford is elected, at this point, so you can all get what you think you want and then choke on it. Rob Ford will destroy your neighborhoods before he does mine, enjoy!

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10:43 AM on August 25, 2010

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Also, this pic of Ford looks like he’s thinking about his lunch “yup, i’m gonna eat me 6 pounds of wings, a stick of butter slathered in bacon fat, a couple corn dogs, some TV dinners and a small child, yup yup. Probably have terrible gas again and Jackie won’t want to touch me, but what’s new, she hasn’t wanted to touch me ever since that time i roughed her up a bit (well the time the cops were called, not all the other ones) speakign of, I’d better get me at least 2 cases of beer for tonight and a bottle of scotch for tomorrow morning.” For all those from the suburbs: The above paragraph aludes to Rob Ford’s propensity for being an angry, wife beating drunk. PS: if you have a beer in your hand, a wifebeater shirt on with a stain put both hands in the air and say Scarberia!

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2:02 PM on August 25, 2010

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Those with their noses in the trough versus those without.paying for the trough. Quite simple actually.

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2:33 PM on August 25, 2010

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I’ve seen an interview with Mr. Siemiatycki and he seems to dislike Ford intensely. At least he seems to be keeping some objectivity as reported in this article.

What is very telling is that Rob Ford has a huge lead where he is best known: by his constituents in Etobicoke. The people that know Ford support him becasue he does a great job representing them.

Can Pantalone say that? Does he have a 35% lead in the city of Toronto or even his ward? Doesn’t look that way. Slitherman? Nope, the people that know him best aren’t falling over themselves to vote for him.

I’m not worried about Miller’s placement in the poll. It shows that the city’s left is just disillusioned with the choices they have. But if he actually ran, Ford would trounce him. One of the reasons Ford’s support is so high is becasue Miller is such a devestatingly bad mayor.

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